Heavy Duty MoBo... ( 3 Views )

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  1. With the ever-increasing size and weight of air cooling solutions and the prohibitive cost of water-cooled systems, a considerate person with modding on his/her mind has to take a good look at the size/weight/height/stress point characteristics of today’s active and passive heatsinks and heat pipes. While passive cooling was a good idea when things started to get hot AND loud, the result in cooler size is now a large factor for space and board stress. Yes we do need better cooling, but with the weight of an OEM board about 3 pounds, strapping a 1.6 - 2+ lb. hunk of metal to the center of it and then turning it on it’s side (when PCB is obviously NOT made of the sturdiest material in the world) just does not sit well with me. I wonder what my new 945 or 955x would say. (Ouch!) Even the mighty Athlon 64 while a strong performer, might pale having to carry up to two thirds of its own weight every day. :eek: Would you give a newborn a grapefruit and tell it to hold on until it was 3? I’d dare say that that would be asking too much. Should we ask it of our very well loved, hand built, carefully modded, dutifully spec’d, children (ahem!) computers? What do the readers think?

    (((((AţK EsKi)))), Macao)

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    Originally Posted by rtfakadiga
    With the ever-increasing size and weight of air cooling solutions and the prohibitive cost of water-cooled systems, a considerate person with modding on his/her mind has to take a good look at the size/weight/height/stress point characteristics of today’s active and passive heatsinks and heat pipes. While passive cooling was a good idea when things started to get hot AND loud, the result in cooler size is now a large factor for space and board stress. Yes we do need better cooling, but with the weight of an OEM board about 3 pounds, strapping a 1.6 - 2+ lb. hunk of metal to the center of it and then turning it on it’s side (when PCB is obviously NOT made of the sturdiest material in the world) just does not sit well with me. I wonder what my new 945 or 955x would say. (Ouch!) Even the mighty Athlon 64 while a strong performer, might pale having to carry up to two thirds of its own weight every day. :eek: Would you give a newborn a grapefruit and tell it to hold on until it was 3? I’d dare say that that would be asking too much. Should we ask it of our very well loved, hand built, carefully modded, dutifully spec’d, children (ahem!) computers? What do the readers think?

    Obviously you've never tried to snap a motherboard in half.

    PCB's are made of several layers of fiberglass.

    I've never seen one break when it wasn't intentional. Those things really are quite strong.

    This is a non-issue. The only issue is the method of attaching the big hunk of copper to the PCB, not the PCB itself.

    (adem, Hong Kong)

  3. this is good
     
    true, i have never been moved to attempt to break a mobo in half,
    they always behave themselves like well trained soldiers
    the printed circuitry just looks delicate (and pretty) ;)
    i'm really afraid of putting water inside, or even near my comp for any reason
    but i'm going to build a 640 o4 820 based comp soon and want to keep temps down
    Tt big typhoon and sonic tower look like good options heat-wise
    but they make ME sweat

    (Emre, United States)

  4. respectfully, please
     
    Here’s an excerpt from a review by XPTB http://www.ocia.net/reviews/tower112/tower112.shtml

    “I didn't get a chance to test load (Tt tower 112) because of complications that might not be the fault of the Tower, no one really knows. This is a mystery we never could solve; maybe you can figure it out. One morning, I woke up to turn the computer on. It powered up but nothing happened. After checking everything I found that the motherboard had gone bad. This seems to be a bit odd for me because it has been running fine with no complications. There was no sign of damage anywhere. What I wonder is, did the weight of the Tower maybe bend the motherboard a wrong way and goof up a tracer…”
    The review continues;
    “Our friend playafly187 took the tower to install on his system.... Oddly enough, when he got the heatsink installed, the computer wouldn't boot. It would power up, but nothing would happen. This was similar to my problem. Installing his old heatsink back, the computer worked fine. Could this Tower really be a little to heavy for motherboards? Is this the reason my motherboard broke and his wouldn't post?”

    While I have no intention of taking his word over the sage [H]ard wisdom, I would ask what precautions might one take in installing large sinks. This one is an extreme example, but I plan to air cool an extreme processor and I cannot possibly be too careful.

    (serkan, Papua New Guinea)

  5. Ps
     
    I am deathly afraid of water cooling :eek:

    (berý, Marshall Islands)



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